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02/24/2017 01:30 PM House JUDICIARY

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01:33:20 PM Confirmation Hearing(s): Commission on Judicial Conduct
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                       February 24, 2017                                                                                        
                           1:32 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Matt Claman, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Zach Fansler, Vice Chair                                                                                         
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                          
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                 
Representative David Eastman                                                                                                    
Representative Chuck Kopp                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lora Reinbold                                                                                                    
Representative Charisse Millett (alternate)                                                                                     
Representative Louise Stutes (alternate)                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commission on Judicial Conduct                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Donald McClintock - Anchorage                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DONALD WILLIAM MCCLINTOCK, Attorney                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  As appointee to the position of the                                                                      
Commission on Judicial Conduct, discussed his qualifications and                                                                
answered questions.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:32:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MATT  CLAMAN called the House  Judiciary Standing Committee                                                             
meeting  to order  at 1:32  p.m.  Representatives Kopp,  Eastman,                                                               
Fansler,  and  Claman   were  present  at  the   call  to  order.                                                               
Representatives Kreiss-Tomkins and LeDoux  arrived as the meeting                                                               
was in progress.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):  COMMISSION ON JUDICIAL CONDUCT                                                                       
                    CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                
                 COMMISSION ON JUDICIAL CONDUCT                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
1:33:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
the confirmation  hearing on the Commission  on Judicial Conduct,                                                               
Donald William McClintock.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN opened invited testimony.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:34:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DONALD WILLIAM McCLINTOCK  stated he is an  Anchorage attorney in                                                               
private practice,  and advised that he  submitted his application                                                               
for  a seat  on the  Commission on  Judicial Conduct  due to  his                                                               
fairly long  history of involvement  in the Alaska  Court System.                                                               
He noted  that he considers  the Alaska  judiciary as one  of the                                                               
bright  lights of  this state  in  terms of  delivering fair  and                                                               
impartial justice.  Mr. McClintock  explained that his skills and                                                               
talent are  based upon his prior  work history on the  Alaska Bar                                                               
Association  (ABA) in  terms of  handling discipline  matters and                                                               
also being familiar  with the operation of the court  system.  He                                                               
described  this  opportunity  as  a form  of  public  service  in                                                               
serving the  State of Alaska, and  that his training as  a lawyer                                                               
taught him  that sometimes it  is better  to say less  than more,                                                               
and he was available for questions.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN noted  the committee has a copy  of Mr. McClintock's                                                               
conflict of interest statement, resume,  and other documents.  He                                                               
then closed  invited testimony  and opened  the committee  up for                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:37:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. McCLINTOCK, in response to  Representative Kopp, advised that                                                               
the  commission was  constitutionally  created with  a number  of                                                               
components such  that it  is educational, it  is a  resource that                                                               
provides,  sometimes  with  oversight from  the  council  members                                                               
themselves, guidance to judges with  some of the close calls that                                                               
"we all have to make in  our lives," and the disciplinary role is                                                               
monitoring complaints  to the commission.   He said he  sees that                                                               
role  as  serving  two  goals,  one of  which  is  the  paramount                                                               
protection of  the public,  and protection  of the  integrity and                                                               
reputation  of  the court  system  to  keep  the Alaska  type  of                                                               
justice  administered   held  in  high  esteem,   which  requires                                                               
judgment calls.   He remarked that  he does have the  training to                                                               
participate  as  an  adjudicator  and that  he  would  weigh  the                                                               
evidence and  make recommendations as  to whether it  should move                                                               
into  a  disciplinary  matter.   Also,  he  explained,  there  is                                                               
general  education  for  the  public   and  outreach  to  educate                                                               
communities  on judicial  ethics and  the role  of judges  in the                                                               
community.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FANSLER thanked  Mr.  McClintock  for his  public                                                               
service and his desire to assist this state.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX echoed  Representative Fansler's  comments                                                               
with respect  to thanking Mr.  McClintock for his  public service                                                               
and willingness to serve.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:39:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  asked about the tools  the commission has                                                               
at its discretion in the case  of a valid complaint being brought                                                               
before the commission.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. McCLINTOCK  advised that  most proceedings  are confidential.                                                               
Essentially, he  said, a complaint  comes in, the  staff proceeds                                                               
with  the  initial  screening  process   and  in  the  event  the                                                               
complaint is valid and jurisdictional,  it would move to a formal                                                               
investigation.   In  the  event  it moved  on  to a  disciplinary                                                               
matter,  typically, a  special prosecutor  would be  retained and                                                               
the  judge  would be  given  an  opportunity  to respond  to  the                                                               
complaint.  He  explained that it would then go  through a formal                                                               
process  of discovery  and subsequently  an adjudicative  hearing                                                               
with recommendations  as to  whether discipline  was appropriate.                                                               
The range of  discipline can be minor slips  such as, inadvertent                                                               
failure to render a decision timely.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:42:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  asked the greater sanctions  available to                                                               
the commission.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  McCLINTOCK responded  that if  it is  a formal  disciplinary                                                               
proceeding, the  commission itself  only has  the role  of making                                                               
findings and making recommendations  to the Alaska Supreme Court,                                                               
of which has the power to  impose formal disciplinary action.  He                                                               
opined that there  have been public reprimands, but  he could not                                                               
recall  discipline  that   has  gone  further  than   that.    He                                                               
reiterated  that  commission itself  makes  the  findings of  the                                                               
nature of the breach of the standard of conduct.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:43:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  offered  a scenario  of  the  commission                                                               
receiving  a  severe complaint  and  asked  whether he  would  be                                                               
reluctant to recommend removal from the judiciary.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  McCLINTOCK  answered "No,"  and  reiterated  his reasons  to                                                               
serve,  such  that  if  there  is a  judge  not  meeting  his/her                                                               
judicial standards required for his/her  conduct on the bench, he                                                               
has  no problem  making that  recommendation, and  he also  feels                                                               
strongly about protection  of the integrity of the court.   It is                                                               
a  reputation  that  is  hard  won but  easily  lost  and  it  is                                                               
important to  prove to the  public that  the system works  and it                                                               
can police itself.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:44:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  offered a  scenario of a  complaint being                                                               
brought against  a sitting  member of  the judiciary  for marital                                                               
infidelity, and  after investigation found that  it had occurred,                                                               
how would he respond to that type of complaint.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MCCLINTOCK related  that he would first refer  to the cannons                                                               
of judicial conduct, and opined  that most of the conduct subject                                                               
to  discipline  would  be  behavior  reflecting  on  the  judge's                                                               
ability  to discharge  his/her duties  on the  bench, as  well as                                                               
maintain their standing  in the community.  Frankly,  he said, on                                                               
that question he  would certainly look to past  precedent and the                                                               
application of the cannons.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:45:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE offered a scenario of  a complaint against a judge                                                               
for making  an intentionally misleading  statement in  the public                                                               
eye, and  asked how he  would deal  with that complaint  after it                                                               
was found that the complaint was valid.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. MCCLINTOCK  reiterated that he  would turn to the  cannons of                                                               
judicial  conduct,  it  would  depend  upon  the  nature  of  the                                                               
statement  and the  nature of  its public  import.   He commented                                                               
that  this scenario  reflects  a statement  made  outside of  the                                                               
courtroom,  as a  public  person, but  intentionally  false.   He                                                               
reiterated he would  turn to the cannons of  judicial conduct and                                                               
past precedent  to see if it  invokes some of the  concerns about                                                               
protecting the integrity  of the courts, and  whether there would                                                               
be sanctions.   He related that he would have  to educate himself                                                               
on that issue.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:47:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN   said  he   understands  the   value  of                                                               
consistency and  precedence, and asked  him to speak more  on how                                                               
he would approach that personally,                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  pointed out  that Mr. McClintock  is applying  as a                                                               
member  of  the  Judicial  Conduct   Commission  and  it  is  not                                                               
appropriate to ask  how he would approach that as  a person.  Mr.                                                               
McClintock  answered the  questions  about how  he would  address                                                               
that on this commission.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN ruled that question out of order.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:48:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN asked  Chair Claman  if he  could ask  if                                                               
there was a particular reason  why that complaint would be worthy                                                               
of  the commission's  time,  what about  that  type of  complaint                                                               
would make it worthy.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN repeated  that that is not  an appropriate question,                                                               
Mr. McClintock answered the questions  about how he would respond                                                               
to that type  of complaint, and he answered that  he would follow                                                               
the guidance of the cannons of judicial conduct and precedent.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:49:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP suggested  the committee  remember the  most                                                               
recent  cases  with which  the  Judicial  Conduct Commission  has                                                               
dealt.   He informed the  committee that practically  speaking, a                                                               
judge  signed  off  on  a   work  contract  indicating  work  was                                                               
completed  and  eligibility  for  pay,  when  the  work  was  not                                                               
completed.    Also,  he  related, sending  notes  to  a  district                                                               
attorney  or  defense attorney  suggesting  that  a new  line  of                                                               
questioning  might  be more  advantageous.    In looking  at  Mr.                                                               
McClintock's resume, there is no doubt  he will be well suited to                                                               
address those situations, he said.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:50:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   FANSLER   thanked   Mr.   McClintock   for   his                                                               
willingness to  serve and  in looking at  his resume  and hearing                                                               
his answers to  questions, he agrees that Mr.  McClintock will be                                                               
a fine candidate for this position.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN noted  that he  has known  Mr. McClintock  for many                                                               
years, and that  he has long impressive record  of public service                                                               
in a  diverse number of  ways displaying not only  real integrity                                                               
in the community but a dedication to continuing to serve.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:52:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   FANSLER  said   the  House   Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee reviewed the qualification  of the governor's appointee                                                               
and  recommends   that  the  name,  Donald   William  McClintock,                                                               
Judicial Conduct Commission,  be forwarded to a  joint session of                                                               
the Senate and House of  Representatives for consideration.  This                                                               
does not  reflect intent  by any  of the members  to vote  for or                                                               
against  this  individual during  any  further  sessions for  the                                                               
purposes of confirmation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:53:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 1:53 p.m.